Esta es una duda q me surgio jugando un partido y la publique en el foro del CoE pero todavia no me han dado una respuesta solida q me convensa, a ver q opinan por aqui la gente q sabe
marcos escribió:this is the scenario:
my opponent moves to mount doom with scroll of isildur, he enters the site and test succefully the one ring, can i reveal the roving eye and force the ring bearer to make a cc? i guess this move is legal since during mov/haz phase there is a possible target for the roving eye's corruption check who is the bearer of the scroll. Am I right?
Ringbearer respondio:
ringbearer escribió:
An on-guard card may be revealed when the company plays a resource that potentially taps the site. The card must affect the company or a character in the company that site phase. Note that this clarification is looser than the rule printed on page 61 of the Unlimited Rules book.
As I recall ringtesting doesnt tap the site, so there is no go here.
yo respondi:
marcos escribió:
Ringbearer escribió:
An on-guard card may be revealed when the company plays a resource that potentially taps the site. The card must affect the company or a character in the company that site phase. Note that this clarification is looser than the rule printed on page 61 of the Unlimited Rules book.
As I recall ringtesting doesnt tap the site, so there is no go here.
as far as i understand an on-guard card doesn't MUST be revealed after tapping a site, it says MAY...
A revealed on-guard card retroactively takes effect as though it were both declared and resolved immediately prior to the chain of effects during which it was revealed.
it can be revealed in response to the playing of the ring?
A successful ring test does not allow an on-guard card to be revealed.
i guess this other line makes reference to a situation when neither the ring nor the scroll are not in play and no other target may be assigned, but this isn't the case because there was a possible target in play, the bearer of the scroll
Anyone else's opinnion? Mark? Manuel? Anyone can help me with this =P
dios mio... tengo opiniones muy diversas sobre este tema
Alguien me podria dar una respuesta concreta? segun me dicen en el otro foro creo q no se podria revelar la carta en guardia
Mark Alfano escribió:
marcos escribió:
as far as i understand an on-guard card doesn't MUST be revealed after tapping a site, it says MAY...
You are correct, but I don't think you understand fully what you are correct about. You may reveal an on guard card when such a card is
played. You don't have to, but you may. However, you may NOT reveal an on guard card in any other circumstances.
marcos escribió:
it can be revealed in response to the playing of the ring?
A successful ring test does not allow an on-guard card to be revealed.
i guess this other line makes reference to a situation when neither the ring nor the scroll are not in play and no other target may be assigned, but this isn't the case because there was a possible target in play, the bearer of the scroll
Not a special ring after a test, since that would never tap a site. After the play of a gold ring, of course, it's fine.
en las cartas que pueden ser reveladas en guardia, están las de corrupción, a menos que haya en algún lugar de las reglas (los Coe, el concilio holandes o seguramente el ccgg) un apartado concreto que diga que esa carta (en concreto) no puede usarse, pues debería poder considerarse legal...
Aavataar has de saber qe Britannia ha entrado en una nueva era de luz...
el_grimbu escribió:el ojo errante no es una carta de corrupcion sino un suceso breve q obliga a un personaje a hacer un cc, de ahi la diferencia supongo
Y cual es la diferencia con por ejemplo codicia? que no sea un suceso permanente no implica que no sea una carta de corrupción...
Aavataar has de saber qe Britannia ha entrado en una nueva era de luz...
